George Washington

What's she gonna do? Brother? When Jeff Townsen media runs wild on you America stories? Alright, alright, alright, this is Jeff Townsen. I'm not a political man, I'll tell you that much, but I do enjoy these historical conversations with my good friends Luke and Jack and I almost broke out into an Alan Jackson song there, but I didn't to save everybody the misery of hearing me sing how are you guys doing? I'm good. I would like to hear the song. What does he say? I'm just a singer of simple songs. I'm not. I'm not a real bugle man, and I'm just a podcaster of simple podcast. And today we're gonna be sharing some more America stories with you. We're continuing along with the timelines of revel Utionary War. We just finished up on a batter of battle batter. It was a batter the Battle of Bunker, And we're going to kind of step away to day from my understanding guys and talk about a significant player that comes into play after this and go into his backstory a little bit. Yeah, we are talking about the one and only George Washington. Oh shit, Yeah, he comes in like it immediately after Bunker Hill in terms of being like the commander in chief but a little bit of you know, history, They were kind of actively like just to paint the picture here. They kind of felt like they needed a more prominent, powerful figure to lead this army. Correct. Yeah, they knew they needed someone that everyone would rally behind. And when it comes down to it, he was. He was He had the most military experience and on top of that, he had a lot of political experience over the course of his life. Who was leading it before he obviously we talked about some of it. He just they obviously just lost a battle. Technically, they just lost that fight. But it was also kind of like it was such a costly victory for the British that they weren't couple of out of the game yet because they couldn't be overran. But it really showed some structural weakness. Oh yeah, Yeah, they didn't have the tactical genius that they needed. The swagger, yeah, the swagger. Yeah. George Washington, he was born in seventeen thirty two. His dad had had a couple of kids before him, but that was the previous marriage, and I believe that woman passed away and then he married Mary Ball and he had six kids with her, and George Washington was the first of those six. George Washington's older brothers from his dad's first marriage were all educated in England, but he didn't leave to learn in England. He stayed in America at a church school in Hartfield. From there he you know, he was taught all the basic stuff, but he learned specifically land surveying, and he became great at making maps and surveying land, and that's what got him his first political office as the county land surveyor when he was seventeen years old. And from there he made a lot of friends in the political circles, but also in the wealthier to do merchants and farmers because they had large tracts of land that he helped survey for them. His older brother, Lawrence, was a general in the Virginia Militia, but he had come down with tuberculosis when George Washington was eighteen years old, and they decided they were going to go on a trip to try to find a climate would cure the tuberculosis, because that was a prevailing theory at the time that certain climates were better for you and so they end up traveling to Barbados, and this is the only trip that George Washington ever made out of the country. In Barbados, George Washington actually contracted smallpox, about his face scarred and he was quite sick for a while. Unfortunately, his brother died the very next year, and that's when Washington took over Mount Vernon, which belonged to his brother, which just sounds cool mel Vernon, Yeah, and also George Washington. It kind of like shows that George Washington had like a lot of there's a lot of things to get hardened about, right, kind of like dealing with a lot of trouble something. A lot of people during that time obviously had a lot of troubles they dealt with, but George Washington was not like acceptance of that. He dealt with hard, hard times and so they kind of he had that that learned experience that comes with difficulties. As a way of like honoring the memory of his brother Lawrence, he decided that he was going to seek a commission in the militia after his time in office as a land surveyor was out. And so about this point he was about nineteen years old and he petitioned the Virginia's lieutenant governor at the time, and he was appointed a major and commander of one of the militias. And it was at this point that the French and Indian War was still was heating up and British and the French were fighting for control of the Ohio Valley and that's where he was sent. He in October seventeen fifty three, he was sent to speak with French forces in this area and to demand that they vacate the land. He was sent solely just him, or he had because he sent like a detachment. Okay, it's about say George, damn it, it's time to it's time to spread your wings and fly. Yep, you guys start earning your keep. Yeah wow. But he it was like a this was a formal request. So they this like came up in the last episode. We talked about how you're not supposed to kill officers, right, so if an officer was coming, you know, you met with them if they're gonna come to talk, and so so French were. They greeted them. They actually had like a dinner for room and everything. And he was also told to seek out the Iroquois confederacy and get some intelligence on French forces from them. On his way there, he met with they're called the half King and they're kind of like they're lower leader. And the name of this guy is not very creative to Nat Harrison, I probably butchered. The pronunciation of that was right to me. Yeah, and uh, there was another They met with other Iroquois chiefs there as well, and they he got information about the numbers and location of French forts from them, as well as prisoners, the print to take gun and stuff like that. And they gave him a nickname that is as hard to pronounce, but it's very interesting. It's Knoto Caius and that name meant devour of villages. Apparently he was originally given to his great grandfather, John Washington by Iroquois chief and then they gave it to him as well. They remember that or something. Oh, yeah, I'm curious about that. I wonder if it was just a type of name that they would give people, you know, I'm curious about that. Yeah, It's like, how much could they really know of his lineage? But maybe they didn't his ERICOI you know, Yeah, that's it's a good question. Actually, what's pretty tough to civilization game. So I mean they might they might be a real with all the inquancies of people's name in history, you know, I don't know. Washington's party finally made it to Fort Leboeuf, where they met the French commander Saint Pierre, and they were basically just told no, they're not gonna leave. But Saint Pierre gave him, you know, food, winter clothing for his journey back to Virginia. And the whole thing took seventy seven days for when he left to go visit the fringe and by the time he got back. But because he went and did it and spoke with everyone, got all this information as far as where all the forts were. He was given a major like commendation for this, Like they this was a huge report that he turned in and it was pretty instrumental in the British fight in combat at the time. So so just recap your he winner. So he actually provided good information on are you talking like the location of forts and like the supplies, Like what exactly do you mean? He got locations, He knew how many soldiers were in each of those spots, and he had he knew like what prisoners they had taken too, which forts, so they knew where to get specific people that they wanted to get. It was quiet, and he probably put and he probably documented where really well because he was a good at surveying. Yeah, yeah, he could. He was also an expert map maker. Yeah, he had it all planned out for them at this point. So from there he served throughout the war, gotten more accommodations that he led some variety of battles, but he was never given He was only still allowed to control the militia. He was hoping to finally get regular army position, but they kept passing them over every time he applied for that position. What was the common belief the reason why they asked him over just wasn't a regular or it's because he was not from England. He was born in America and it didn't wasn't educated in England like his older brothers were, and so because he wasn't educated outside of the country, they really didn't trust him that kind of thought. He was a little bit of a country bumpkin. Bumpkin, Yeah, just a singer of simple songs, you might say, I would say, yeah, it definitely was. It a Bumpkin. He was the Jackson at his time. Only write that down Boom. He was the Alan Jackson is time. Okay, that's all I needed to know, Bumpkin. That's the definition of it. Now, Yeah, that's that's the Alan Jackson's a bump like. Now, I like, this is the part where you give us a swerve, right, like John Brown fought in his army an individual in militia. Actually, this is where it will lay off the gas for a little bit, and we're gonna talk about his personal life around this time. Okay, So how old would have been here? Approximately twenty six At this point he had served in the army for a few years now, and he met his wife to be, Martha Dandridge Custus. She was a widow a year older than him, and she had a couple of kids already, but her her second kids yeah which yeah, probably her second kid she actually had. She was injured substantially, and so after they married, they were never able to have kids. Now it's unknown if it was because the injuries she sustained during childbirth or if the smallpox made him sterile, which is a thing that could happen, but they were never able to have kids. So he just adopted these kids as his own, and he moved to Mount Vernon permanently at this point, and he became a political figure and tobacco and wheat farmer. Again, did you say tobacco and wheat or wheat wheat? Okay? I was like, man, he's revolutionary. Here. I was looking at the notes myself, and I was like, I keep seeing Weed as well. You're gonna talk about her family her right, Like she's economically a different level of him. Okay, Yeah, she's much wealthier family than Washington. Washington wasn't wasn't bad off, but the Custus family, their their holdings were like two or three times the size of Washington's. What did they think about Washington? I wonder like her family like, actually, her family didn't care for him that much. There was actually later in life when he sought three his household slaves. Part of the slaves belonged to the Custus family, and they did not want to free them because so there was some disagreement and they didn't really they weren't didn't want Washington trying to run the show anymore. And so yeah, they her family never really her family and her her dead husband's family never really cared for George Washington all that much. Do you think he ended up singing that one uh Toby Keith song to her? How do you like the family? How do you like me now now that I'm probably became a president? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. Wow, was a triple threat, right, he was like a general, a president, and a country music singer. But it so literally Okay, So I hadn't heard that before, but I just had, Like I wondered how they felt about him. Yeah, from what I've been able to gather, they were not huge fans. How did they meet? Again? Like where did they meet? Like the country music concert or like what what like a social gathering? So stuff like that, because his family was well to do enough to show up in social circles of the higher ups, and so he did meet her at one of those events. Wouldn't be amazing to go back and see some of these events, like you know, those two meeting and one of her daughters, her second kid, Her name was Patsy, and she suffered epileptic seizures from the age of twelve onwards, and at the age of seventeen she died having a seizure in George Washington's hands, and he was one of the first times in recorded history of someone having an eyewitness account of someone dying from epilectric seizure. And how could be George Washington? He spent three months afterwards not doing anything. He say, he couldn't bring uself to work. It was just so devastating too. And how was this lining up with his career at this poin time? There was some time after they had been married, he was just doing local politics and stuff like that, hustling. And this was a little before like the Stamp Act, a little before that. And what was it like were there? So where were they at? Again they were at What was it like were there at? I guess in compared to like we talked about Boston. What was the world like around them? Alex They're in Virginia around Alexandria, and it's a big plantation area. So this was, you know, a place of wealth for the people who were landowners. This was a much more spread out area because he's a large farming compounds and in large scale houses in these areas, so less dense city and more spread out, a lot more money gotcha. So as we mentioned, he was passed over for a potion many times in the army, and this was what started seating in him a distrust for the British overall, because like that, he knew that he was being passed up, most likely for his heritage, so he would just started not liking them. And then when they did something called the Royal Proclamation of seventeen sixty three, which is something we hadn't talked about yet but was actually another big saying that was before even the Stamp Act that became you know, started making people mad at the British. But it was basically they banned any colonial Americans settling west of the Allegheny Mountains and they only wanted British fur traders to go out there. So like they shut off a good portion of this area where people wanted to go, and we're just protecting the British fur trade. So this was a big deal that he hated. Then, of course the stamp Ac attackment a couple of years later, and he was furious at that. So this was when he decided to do some somewhat illegal stuff with land speculation. He started sending people to acquire backcountry western lands. Then not telling the British that they were doing. So they started going out grabbing land up building out that way, and this was in sixty seven. It's interesting, is like something like that wouldn't be recognized probably by the British, So you kind of almost have like a built in force that really wants to fight back, right because they now they would lose all that land. If you know, it was the British found out like this deal was not you know, legal, they would probably just taken it all. So all those people were probably at some point realize that if they don't participate in the war, they will lose everything that they purchased. Something similar I don't know if it was around this time, but something similar like that happened in New Zealand, I believe, regarding like some some sailors purchasing land, but it wasn't recognized by the government and so they just kind of took it back. So this isn't the first time losing the only time or something like this has happened, where like land was purchased illegally and then you know, by by not recognizing it, it was lost. So if I just think that it's possible that some of those landout are sort of like, Okay, we going to have a vested interest in this side of the war essentially. Yeah, there's definitely kind of what was going on there. When when British officials passed the Townsend Acts, which eventually led to the Boston Tea Party in Boston, Massachusetts, he in Virginia proposed a boycott of all British goods himself, and he tried to get that. He got that passed through Virginia Senate and everything like that. So he was a big dynamo in Virginia, while people like John Adams and Sam Adams were the big big to do in Boston, but they knew about each other though p simately right they did. Yeah, Basically anybody who was who's who knew about George Washington because yea of his deeds during the war and his very big personality in person. He was very quiet when talking in public, but when you're in it with him, he was quite the host and people knew from very well. He was also great at getting elected because he would provide tons of free beer to all voters, and so every time he won, he would win by like forty percent of the vote or more. What did the British think of, Like are they aware of him right now up and coming? And like what did they think? Well, they definitely didn't like him as anymore than ever before they were were. They knew that he was popular amongst the people, They knew that he was a military leader, and they but he was just a little bit less of a pan in the neck than Sam Adams and Paul Revere were in Boston. So while he was definitely on their radar, he wasn't as bad. They could let him do his stuff for a while, and plus they assumed that he would just go back to living his life of wealth and privilege as a you know, a plantation farmer. But unfortunately that was not the case for them. July seventeen seventy four, this is several years later and just a little before everything really kicks off, he and a man named George Mason drafted a risk list of resolutions to try to curtail the British power in the area. And one of those was that they called for Virginia to stop buying slaves from the slave traders because they knew how much money was going to Britain from that. There were other things, other trade rules that they tried to get past in this as well, so nobody was still flow into the British even though they themselves at this way in time didn't absolavey, did they. I don't believe they did, no, but they still sold them. It was like a weird loophole in their rules. They couldn't have them, but they could traffick of them. This was like the beginning of George Washington's complicated relationship with slavery. He had slaves and that he was also at this point trying to get the end of slave trade. And then later in life there's more with him going back and forth on like what can he do about layer? He doesn't want it to be there. He would talks about one point that it was something that disgusted him that existed, but he couldn't see a way out, and he was so far in that later in life he's so far in debt that he can't get rid of the slaves because he went bell to survive. And so it's a really it's a really strange relationship that he has with the whole thing, and it gets progressively crazier as time goes on. But it's around this time that the First Continental Congress happens in seventeen seventy four in August, and he was selected to go to the First Continental Congress as a delegate for Virginia, and he offered to help train Boston militia and Virginia Militia paid for training of the soldiers himself out of pocket. Oh so this was this is what. Yeah, he's he's definitely wants to do something. He isn't in charge yet, and this is like the first thing that came to his Mindy, he'll help armed soldiers. It wasn't until the siege of Boston has started and found out about it in seventeen seventy five that he decided, well, he's going to go back again to second no Congress and really get involved. He wants to do more than he's ever done before. Now. Yeah, and in the I'm sure a lot of people around his neck of the woods were probably even to get outside of like political figures are probably just wanting nothing to do with it too. That was one reason why they really wanted George Washington, John Adams and Benjamin Franklin really wanted him in charge of the army because they knew that his stature in society in Virginia would pull more people into the war. And then if Virginia, which is one of the is the largest colony and the wealthiest comes into the war, the New York and some of the others will throw into Yeah, they were kind of like, I guess the thought would be have to kind of get the people behind it, because they don't really have a They're not like a close and personal with a lot of these things that have happened, so they probably don't have the same I don't know where I'm trying to think of here. I guess drive to fight back as the people that have been directly involved it. For Yeah, if you when we think about it, these are by far the wealthiest to the people, and the people who lived in Virginia are the wealthiest of the country. They are so far removed from this fight because it's in Boston. They don't need to worry about it. And as far as they're concerned, they're, you know, they're better off with British trade for the most part, and so they're they're not really wanting to get in on this. But George Washington felt differently. He felt that the other British would over time just keep taking more and more and there will be less for you know, prosperous life. He was great at convincing people one on one and this is no one of those guys that was an accept from a large person. And this was a time when that was like the biggest thing. Like this six foot three and an he weighs like two iron twenty pounds and he is just this massive person for the time. I would I'd like to have seen the stand up between him and the Green Mountain Boys guy. He said, what was his name, an Ally? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they wouldn't have pants on pants the Peas story. It just depends which story was communicated. Yeah, that's true. Who wrote it? Right? So go ahead and now go ahead check. Yeah. I was just gonna say that this is actually we've you know, keep coming across the same theme every time. Is uh, this always constantly seems like it's like flying by the see of their pants and like just making a decision in the moment and then just going with that. Because you know the fact that they elected him right the very next day, it really makes you wonder like who who else was like stepping up to do the job, but almost makes you wonder maybe no one else was. And it seemed like he felt like he literally had to do it, like from all the stories like you read about it, like even as presidency, all that, even a second term and all that, he literally felt like he had to do it. Yeah, exactly. I was gonna say one other thing here. I think, like we talk about Benett Arnold and we'll talk about that more, but he does have this way where he's sympathetic and can relate, but also people can relate to him as well. And I think you kind of see that benetet Ardold theater. Maybe he saw a little bit of himself and Benett Arnold. And I think he was pretty good about being put himself in people's shoes, I guess you could say in simple terms, and be in the first choice of the people. Yeah, definitely he was. He was very humble what he needed to be, and then that got he because he knew that, you know, he was just another person, and because that he was able to attract other people to him they were just regular people. And that was a big to do with him. When he was elected as Commander in chief after John Adams and the others nominated him. He you know, accepted the day after he was elected and he, uh, he said, turned down a salary. There, I go, I pay him and he was like, no, you don't need to pay me. So he was never paid while he was commander in chief of the army during the war. He talked about debt later. Yeah, he wasn't great with money, and this is one of the things that he did. But he just felt that it was unnecessary to be paid for this. This is something that he felt that he needed to do, which is a difference really most other soldiers, like they do it because they're paid to do it. I wonder how his family thought about it. Like him, he's obviously got to leave. He's going to be a part of something really big here, But I don't I just have a hard time believe in everybody to be completely on board with it. Yeah, there was a There was definitely some people who probably weren't. It is also interesting though you brought up Bendick Arnold. It's funny that, like you know, American history wise, you think of the first probably the first general that comes to mind if you think of the Revolutionary War is George Washington. But Bendick Garold was in the fight way before him. Yeah, and that's a that's an interesting thing that it gets muddled over time with history. Well, and so like that's one thing I really like about this whole thing we're doing here, is we're learning some of the intricacies of how all has worked out and then the things that they don't talk about as much, and then how things came to be as So that's one thing it's always interesting about any history ever, is learning about little things like all right, so everyone thinks that George Washington is this indestructible paragon of you know, America. But to find out that something like something that happened to him with his stepdaughter dying, that was enough to take him out of commission for a quarter of a year, you know, that made him just stop doing anything and just was just down and out. And like you think about all the things that happened to you in your daily life that puts you under, you know, drags you down. You're thinking, man, there's no way I could ever do some of these things that these like people did in the past or sometthing like that. But they are all human. They all had the same things happened to them, and so it's something interesting to find out and learn about. My opinion, what else do we have anything else on him here? To set the stage? Free? Move on? I know that. Just to note again he gave up a lot to do this. He kind of walked away from a business. Well he did walk away from this, it's not kind of yeah, he he was, you know, ready to give it all up. That was a big thing with all a lot of these guys. They were ready to give it all up to do this, these people of wealth and means. It didn't have to they could have just gone on with their life. But this was a really interesting thing, these people who had everything to lose through in for this fright. It was he took office technically the day before Bunker Hill, but he didn't make it to the front lines and to command the army until like a day or so after Bunker Hill, and so like at this point he's going to the front knowing that they're on the back foot now and they even pushed out there, you know, their area that they had, and now he's got to get a fleeing army under control and ray to fight again. It's a great point to bring up, actually he's taken over and very it was already chaok from the beginning, like Jack said earlier, kind of going by the see the you know, just flying off see the pants. But it's he's got to take over now and get this under control. Yeah, it's a it's a it's a rough situation to be in and it gets a long time focus better. Do you think a lot of the people fighting this battle even knew who he was, just the common folk, you know that would have been a part of these militias and these battles that were happening. That's a good question. I would say anyone that was a Virginia militiaman did. Because he was very popular throughout the state or colony when it came to Boston and Massachusetts, mostly the upper crust that you go. So he had to really blowed up a rapport with these guys. Yeah, they're actually fighting. Yeah, they would have. This was someone new out of the colony that they're in coming in. It's taking over. It's definitely a culture shock. Yeah. One thing I wanted to bring up was that, you know, we we have the experience of being in the future at this point, right, we can kind of see how things turned out. And at this point there's obviously no way of knowing what was going to happen next during that moment, so you know, as far as anyone was concerned, if you're signing up, you were signing up, you know, potentially to be killed in battle. And so he's had some pretty intense, you know, personal moments leading up to this point where it was from like you know, the British kind of like overlooking him for promotion to like so just personal tragedies. He he overcame. But the one thing I want to bring up is that since we know what how this ends up, it's I'm excited to eventually talk about some of the things to take place after the war was George Washington and some of his uh, you know, like parties that he would throw just to kind of think of like some of the more you know, later in life positive moments he would eventually experience. And we can get to that eventually. But one of my favorite little but what are we going to talk about the teeth? That's a good question. Okay, I could actually give you a whole rundown the teeth right now if you'd like. I think we should before we end this one. Yeah, so George Washington has suffered from teeth problems for the majority of his life. You've been very young. I just had bad gums, bad dension. Yeah. So he started losing them early on and he had to get you know, false teeth made contrary to popular belief, they were never made out of wood. They were made out of teeth. They were made out of teeth. They were made out of a variety of teeth. Donkey, uh deer, ah slaves teeth and uh lead that seems dangerous all the above, see dangerous may I had? Yeah? Yeah, so, yeah, this is ah. He has several different predenture sets. Over the course of his life, as he lost more and more teeth, he ended up losing all but one of his teeth by the time he was like in his forties, all but one one remaining. Yeah, lucky too he Uh so, he his teeth were very interesting and so some of made the joke that you know, the scariest thing ever is this six foot tall person crazy on lead poisoning wave a sword at you. That's probably why he beat the British. That's what I was taking a lot of lead poisoning evolved at that. You'd also hear about the terrible comfortable. It was truly like painful for him as he'd put in these teeth. It was just awful. Yeah, he uh he had to take a lot in them, which is basically morphine to uh to deal with the pain because it's something completely unnatural or medical that he's putting at his mouth. Yeah, it's a it's a pretty crazy Uh. It's crazier than the wooden teeth story. Like you know, like when you find out it was made of of like donkey teeth. Where the donkey teeth? What do you think he got the donkey teeth? Speculation donkey? You could see him at it Mount Vernon. They have a couple of his stinture sets on display. I would love to uh to go No, okay, okay, just try it, but may I may I try them on? Wait, probably need to post a picture of the teeth. Yeah, Jack, Jack's on it just signed a project. I'm looking at Jack. You're on the teeth project. So yeah, you always hear about his teeth and the wooden teeth, So that not true at all. It's like you're telling me, Yeah, no wooden teeth. They said that apparently they would get stained really badly and they would look like wood, and so that may be where the myths started. You know, I'm looking at him right now, but they're not too bad. Okay, I surprised. I mean the build up on a scott of want to and we're probably like three, but but I thought, so was it like were teeth really important back then for like, like like socially or like, is that was that his concern? Yes? Okay, so it was kind of because you have to be able to like have like tea and you know, stuff with people and you know, eat with any social gathering and so like yeah, you would be eating like cakes and stuff like that or cookies and uh, this was actually what they would do. That say, that was why British Afternoon Tea he kind of thing, you know, And so whenever he met with people, different politicians and stuff, you know, he had to be able to eat these things and you know, speak with them and stuff like that. So he would how do you eat with doggy teeth? That's just crazy to think about it. I don't know, Yeah, I don't know. I see dear teeth, dude, dear, Yeah, I believe this one I heard you think he got it from a dead or alive. Dear it was alive, that'd be even crazier. Yeah, I'm hoping that they killed it first can extract his teeth. That's crazy. Yeah, but that's actually one reason why barbecue became really popular. Uh. He would have his well you could eat like pulled pork sandwiches whatever, pulled pork without teeth okay, And he was one of the first big like politicians in the South to have a barbecue political events that his. Yeah, you would have his slaves do they would cook the hog and everything, and then you would provide everyone over and no one needed to have their teeth to eat. Yeah. Another informative episode here, guys. Yeah, I'm glad we got the got to the teeth portion of GW. That's really the major story that matters. Jack. I'm gonna put you on the spot here. If you had to some this whole conversation that we just had over the last thirty five forty minutes into thirty seconds, how would you define this George Washington event, the up and coming that we just talked about. Uh, well, I would say the the good version of the Disney version of but its gard because he uh yeah, he was also passed up for promotions and things like that, and he did also kind of sort of betray his country, but hey, we got America out of it, so yeah, so he betrayed the Yeah, that's actually the I don't know how I rate that h recap just it. I'm gonna give it a shot, though, if I may hard work rising through the ranks really obviously married into some wealth, but rising through the ranks and just a a dedication and a little bit of vengeance and his soul from what he had felt like he had been wronged, but also buying into a picture of America and a charismatic enigma of a leader. That's better. That's a better. Well I can say he took a bite out of British A bye h. I mean this was a He's a character. He's a person in history that is really interesting and I really like hearing learning about him and yo delving into his past. But he's he's complicated, and that's why I think that's the most important part of the whole thing is he's a complicated individual. He isn't just one thing, and that's like the reason why he did so good is that he was a multi faceted character, a multifaceted person in history, and kind of unique because like most of the other great politicians of the time, we're not great military leaders. Most of the great military leaders were definitely not great politicians. And so like, this is what I find interesting and why I liked about this, you know, startup of his story is you get insights into why he is these things. It put a lot of trust into him because if they could have picked somebody else, it could have things could have ended very differently. Yeah, there's yeah, you know, I even know. I don't look, but I can't even think of who else was on the you know, up for debate at the time, but I believe it was someone from New York who was another like officer who was possibly going to be nominated. But yeah, if you had been anyone else, there's no telling what could have happened. He had his relations that he had with meeting with the French during the French and Indian War does come up later in life when he was able to speak well with French officers and get them to throw into the war as well later and like he's he's good at talking to people like he just is one on one. Like I said, he could get to you and he talked to you and you'll convince you. And that's like his major like almost superpower check or you ought to something there? Yes, well no, I was actually just going to share the image of the of George Washington's sake teeth. That's okay, Yeah, who would you? Would you like me to segue towards it in years? And I can also I have socials. Yeah, America Stories are having real fun time doing this. We're really basically taking a fun but yet simplistic, understandable approach to American history. This podcast we have a like think. This is episode number six. I also in the previous season I kind of rebranded this podcast to America Stories, it was Indiana, so there is a bad category of Indiana Stories. This relates to Indiana history, and we're also working on a bad category now of America Stories here as we've kind of drove through the beginning into the Revolutionary War. You make sure you check out the podcast at America Stories dot us that has linked everywhere you can basically find anywhere you listen to or watch podcast. And I will let Jack finish. I actually took care of some of the legacy farms there. Let you you can follow us on Twitter at America story Pod. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we do have a gamil what's that Gmail? Gmail is America Stories Pod at gmail dot com and you can email us there. Yeah, all right, Luke, any word of any words from wisdom before we shut this down, just you know, I'm no words of wisdom. I'm just really looking forward to talking more about George Washington's role when he gets back gets to Boston, because like he does some interesting stuff there. We'll pick back up after what he gets back with Bunker Hill and connects with all the guys, and then the next journey I assume on the next episode and the boys I look forward to in the yeah we do boys. Okay, all right, taking at these boys, these boys are out. I'm Jeff there, Luke and Jack and until next week, keep being you and keep being great. Gonna face everybody knows. But around there fluent schools going to join. Are you like you find nigger road and you do it's wrong? People got a bank for the dangerous bod an inside to the best of us. Take you what day wrong? Like you said to them some of must do the best we can. Some of must do the best we can. Say Jeff Townsend, Media sees you. Good night. And the question is do I stay here? Will you be back? Are you gonna come back? Will you be back? Are you coming back?